Why is phil fish hated

Fish earned a significant amount of attention after being spotlighted in the film Indie Game: The Movie shortly before his only game, Fez , released on Xbox Live and soon after on PC.

But by then he was already infamous. Fez first appeared at the Independent Game Festival in and was in development for almost five years.

The game always looked great, but after the first few years concerns about its ridiculously long development overshadowed any buzz about the game itself. And Fish has never been afraid to share his brash and often unpopular opinions with the world. When Fez finally came out, the charming and imaginative game proved to be lousy with bugs. A second patch was then stopped by the exorbitant fees that Fish claimed Microsoft charged developers to update games. Microsoft recently changed that particular policy , and Fish promised a patch to fix his original patch.

The documentary follows three indie game developers, including Fish, during the creation and release of their games. I was waiting for the actual news to come out.

Not his fault he is who he is. It's really tough to finalize my thoughts on Phil Fish. I like the guy. I don't agree with some of his points Japanese games-gate.

I think the confidence and arrogance he emits is difficult for me to understand as I simply don't function like that. I don't want to say that 'he brings it on himself' because that's just not fair - but he didn't do a great job of verbalizing how much it all affected him until he blew over last year. It was really nice to see that, despite him quitting the industry, he was still around at GDC and he was happy to publicly appear on the Giant Bomb liveshow multiple times and talk about it all with a smile on his face.

I don't think that means the whole event washed over him but it's at least nice to see he can pick himself up and move on. We attribute standards of 'normal' celebrities and it's not fair.

It's funny because another person in a similar potion is Notch, whose continued arrogance and fame-dick-swinging really annoys me recently the post about him sharing media emails from Polygon just to let his followers mock them. However, no matter how much he irritates me I'd never wish ill will on him and I'm happy to admit that Minecraft is a fantastic game phenomenon?

Ultimately I'm upset that we won't get to see what Fez 2 was and we might not see anymore output from such an interestingly creative mind. It's unfortunately a double-edged sword at this point because if he comes back now people are going to call him out on 'not going through with it' I want him to stick to his guns but I want to play more of his video games. See anything Patrick has written or presented on internet etiquette.

And Patrick actually likes Phil. I don't think he deserved the level of hate he got but let's be real he also stuck his dick in the hornets nest more than once. And while he may not have deserved what he got that is the cold harsh reality of being a public figure these days. Personally, I've always kinda liked Phil Fish in spite of his faults read: being just like everybody else and I think the internet at large should be ashamed of it's treatment towards him.

I had exactly the same thought. As I was watching this video I thought "If it was Phil Fish replying to a journalist in that way it would be Phil Fish getting the hate. And I don't even like Polygon!

But, like Phil Fish, they have become a brand that people are in the habit of hating, and it's hard to turn around and go "Y'know, maybe I'll give them a chance this time" after having previously tweeted about how useless they are.

I totally loved the video and it reinforced many of my thoughts about how the internet can make and break people. It was smart, well done and full of nuanced points which is what the internet needs. I really want to talk to the makers of it because it was brilliant. I think people also hate Notch because they're jealous. Jealous of the fact he's made of money and can effectively do whatever he wants for the rest of his life, because he made one game.

I can't ever be angry at people like that. Dude deserves it, he made a cool game and it did well. Good on him. I'm of the mind that FEZ is a masterpiece, deserves the attention and should be regarded as such, but whatever your opinion on the game is I don't get why you'd hate the creator of it. Anyway, I enjoyed the video and I'm happy it made you re-evaluate your perspective, but I don't know how many "haters" can change their perspective.

I disagree with Patrick on some of those issues because it's in my nature to debate, fiercely, if I'm given the opportunity. It's not like I'll ever resort to racism or abuse, or respond to it. Everybody forms their own narrative and I can't take responsibility for anyone else's. I always considered the people attacking Phil Fish to be the real assholes. I can understand not liking the guy. He has a personality and a way of laying his opinions out in the open that can be aggravating at times but i don't ever recall him being the one to attack others to begin with.

Saying Japanese games suck is not an attack on anyone, it's an opinion and one that doesn't warrant personal attacks and for the vast majority of his "haters" this is where this all started.

People throw insults at a guy for his opinions and then get even more angry at him if he dares to talk back. I do not follow Twitter or the like, but i do know of some of the stories about him and the internet. What i have seen of phil fish which is all video like when he has been on Giant Bomb he comes across as a cool person, funny and intelligent, normal even. It is really sad that such a talented developer is not making games because of the crap that was thrown his way, all blown out of proportion like always.

I have little-to-no opinion about. He seems like an okay guy, who have trouble handling his temper on the Internet, I guess. EDIT: Tried to link Phil's last 3 tweets, but he immediately pulled them all down, locking his account. I love being nice. It messes with people's expectations. Phil Fish didn't deserve what happened. Very few people do. But the reason I can't being myself to feel too bad for him, is that he is, or at least was, part of the toxic environment he decried.

Again, he didn't deserve it, but he did contribute to it. It's not karmic. It's just sad. When rumors started spreading that Microsoft would allow indie developers to self-publish their games to the Xbox Live Arcade in late July , journalists began scrambling for sound bites — as they often do.

But when approached by numerous outlets about their opinions on the matter, prominent indie developers Phil Fish and Jonathan Blow creator of 's Braid declined to comment. They each cited a lack of credible information as their reason for refusing to weigh in. And considering that, at the time, Microsoft had yet to reveal the extent to which they would grant developers freedom to create America's next great indie gem, their response would seem appropriate.

Well, it wasn't. But the damage was already done. Following his micro melee with Beer, Fish unleashed another series of vitriolic tweets, opening up about his disillusionment with the game industry and announcing the cancellation of the forthcoming Fez II.

The abrupt abandonment of his unreleased title was a bombshell move that surprised many gamers and journalists, with Fish's fans wondering whether or not the whole thing was a gag. But Fish claimed, writing on the official Polytron website, it came after a " long, bloody campaign " rather than as a result of, as he put it in an earlier tweet, " It seemed as though Fish was done putting up with the abuse that came with his newfound notoriety.

Apparently, the internet's worst weren't finished with Fish just yet. In fact, "abuse" was only the first step in breaking the video game auteur. Allegedly, 1. It's assumed that Quinn and Fish were targeted , in part, due to their outspoken political stances in the gaming community — the two were frequently and derogatorily labeled "SJWs," or "social justice warriors.

Skeptic and tech-savvy gamers, however, were quick to point out a number of inconsistencies related to the alleged doxxing attack. A lengthy entry posted to the now-defunct Bread Blog Tumblr noted that there was no way the supposed hackers could've collected, compressed, and released 1.

Regardless as to whether Fish's doxxing was an inside job or the work of a black hat mastermind, the attack spelled a turning point for the Polytron founder's career. After his private information was leaked, Fish once again took to Twitter, launching into another slew of tweets. But instead of focusing all of his rage on his alleged doxxers, Fish turned his attention to the gaming industry as a whole.

And, boy, did Fish have a lot to say.